![]() Hidden camera investigation reveals abuse in Canadian pork transportation systemMisc CDN | 206951 hits | Oct 13 1:58 pm | Posted by: BeaverFever Commentsview comments in forum You need to be a member of CKA and be logged into the site, to comment on news. |
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Another completely isolated incident that was found by complete luck and in no way reflects on the industry or company and requires no investigation or review of any kind. Also, the people who filmed the footage should be arrested and charged with some trumped up crime or another for giving our honourable country a bad name.
That's the same party line that I frequently hear about islam.
- Isaac Bashevis Singer
I believe as long as man tortures and kill animals, he will torture and kill humans as well�and wars will be waged�for killing must be practiced and learned on a small scale.
- Edgar Kupfer-Koberwitz
Food for thought, so to speak.
No real way around it with an overpopulated planted that wants to keep eating meat tho, so the least we can do is treat the animals we turn into meat product as humanely as possible. And hire people like Temple Grandin to help with that.
Also it's not just during slaughtering. Pigs are kept in very tight quarters where they basically go insane (since they are intelligent, social animals). Same with chickens. We should cut out the feedlots for beef, grass fed beef is much better. Absolutely band veal. We could do quite a bit that would raise meat prices a bit, but do much better for the animals. Then also eat wieners etc - it's great to use up the whole animal. Just don't think what's in them, and you can now get them with less chemicals in them. Then there's the whole transportation, the abuses animals suffer during that.
better not think about it, if you like to eat meat, as I do.
- Will Munny
I refuse to contribute to it.
Nothing that depraved at all. Just that treating animals like industrial products would require any feeling person to turn those off, see the animals just as objects. Even when the animals we eat are treated as intended in a large slaughterhouse, it's still no picnic for the animals - they can smell the death, know what's coming. (As your quote demonstrates). I think hunting (done right) or a farmer killing an animal he has some sort of relationship with (ie like the old days) are less cruel. The animal may not die as quickly, but its not just being turned into a meat object. I think there is quite a lot of validity to what we hear about native spirituality in relation to the animals they hunt, and the honor and gratitude they give them. Too bad so many natives have become debased and also lost that connection to the animals.
No real way around it with an overpopulated planted that wants to keep eating meat tho, so the least we can do is treat the animals we turn into meat product as humanely as possible. And hire people like Temple Grandin to help with that.
Also it's not just during slaughtering. Pigs are kept in very tight quarters where they basically go insane (since they are intelligent, social animals). Same with chickens. We should cut out the feedlots for beef, grass fed beef is much better. Absolutely band veal. We could do quite a bit that would raise meat prices a bit, but do much better for the animals. Then also eat wieners etc - it's great to use up the whole animal. Just don't think what's in them, and you can now get them with less chemicals in them. Then there's the whole transportation, the abuses animals suffer during that.
better not think about it, if you like to eat meat, as I do.
Good post andy. You made some excellent points. I'd rep you if I could.
It just seems that type of argument can applied to just about any topic from pollution to slave labour.
Perdue forced to remove �humanely raised� labels from chicken
Two class action lawsuits allege that the company's practices are far from kind
Perdue will be forced to remove labels claiming that its chicken products are �humanely raised.� In order to qualify for the label, farms need to voluntarily meet standards such as supplying sufficient food, water and ventilation, as well as devoting a certain amount of space per bird.
Two class action lawsuits allege that the company�s Harvestland brand chicken does not meet those standards. Herb Frerichs, Perdue Farms� general counsel wrote in a statement:
Perdue rejects the plaintiffs� allegations and maintains that its labels are not misleading in any way. Nonetheless, it has agreed to discontinue the labeling claim at issue. Perdue is committed to treating animals with respect and to ensure their health and safety. We are pleased this lawsuit has been resolved.
The Humane Society�s vice president and chief counsel of Animal Protection Litigation says, �Companies like Perdue are exploiting the dramatic growth of consumer demand for improved animal welfare for their own profit. Rather than implementing humane reforms, Perdue has simply slapped �humanely raised� stickers on its factory farmed products, hoping consumers won�t know the difference.�
Regardless of the label, industry standards regarding animal cruelty have been particularly lax. Temple Grandin, Ph.D., an expert on animal handling and slaughter wrote, �The National Chicken Council Animal Welfare audit has a scoring system that is so lax that it allows plants or farms with really bad practices to pass.�
http://www.salon.com/2014/10/13/perdue_ ... m_chicken/
Andy you need to go out to a pig farm and see how their nuts are cut out, you'd really be impressed. Actually I dont think you could handle that, maybe you'd be better at cutting the widdle piggiewigglies teeth out.
Sorry, that's just the way it is and those 2 procedures are done in their first 20 days of life.
Do you consider that to be a morally justifiable position, or do you just take a moral write-off in this area so to speak, and hope to make up the points somewhere else?
It just seems that type of argument can applied to just about any topic from pollution to slave labour.
I'm a realist. I know I'm still going to buy pork products, I'm still going to buy animal products. I'm not going to become a vegan and devote my life a diet.
We raise these animals to be killed and then eaten. I'm at a loss to what someone is meant to do when an animal will not move. Use harsh language?
I'd also like to point out that while hidden camera footage is shocking and powerful. It's also carefully edited to give the story the people running the camera want.
How much footage was recorded? Weeks worth?