 Clean energy deal anticipated during Obama visit Sources from both countries say they expect Harper and Obama to announce an agreement that would serve as a building block towards a continental cap-and-trade system.
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the greenies aren't going to like that kind of talk
If it happens, it'll be a good thing. Nothing wrong with cleaner energy after all.
It depends. Research and development, new technologies; sure why not, if it's done right. A North American cap n trade deal, no way. That would be an impotent, exercise of crippling expense as already proven in Europe, and by signatures of Kyoto.
What do you think cleaner energy meant? I have yet to see how a cap and trade system creates cleaner energy.
See that's the problem. You and me read the title of the article in the thread. It says "cleaner energy", and we go woo hoo, less pollution. That's great. However, then (me at least) clicks the link to read the article, and the actual article spins...
And me at least, goes "WTF! I don't get what that has to do with 'cleaner energy", but oh well if that's what they want to call it, I'm going to say the cap n trade part, at least, sucks, and it makes me suspicious of what else they might be including under the mantle of 'cleaner energy'.
That deeper integration would be a precursor to the loftier goal of North America-wide greenhouse gas targets � something that would require extensive negotiations.
"Some kind of co-operation on technology appears likely going forward ," the U.S. official said.
"But vis-a-vis cap and trade, specifically, that's probably premature."
Michael Ignatieff, National Post
Published: Thursday, February 19, 2009
Our environmental partnership should extend into the far north. Canada and the United States should work together, with other northern nations, to protect this region for the whole
.. or is that just another Dion-moment..?
Does that mean that we need to change "No Deep Integration" banners that were all over this site? I guess the whole Americano Dollar thing is fine now? I bet that 911 was even done by terrorists again.
Did you read this?
That deeper integration would be a precursor to the loftier goal of North America-wide greenhouse gas targets � something that would require extensive negotiations.
"Some kind of co-operation on technology appears likely going forward ," the U.S. official said.
"But vis-a-vis cap and trade, specifically, that's probably premature."
Yes, I read that. "Probably premature" doesn't mean out of the question, and the general flavor of the article is Cap n Trade is a thing they want to consider eventually. To which I reply "phhhhttt", and when you suggest what they are calling "cleaner technology" in the article is categorically a good direction, I suggest again "It depends".
If you're talking stuff like taking down road blocks slowing the development of financially viable alternative energy, or continuing the great work done in America to this point cleaning the actual pollution out of industry then sounds good. If you're talking cap n trade, or if what Big O means by "carbon sequestration" is something like that twisted definition of what he's calling "clean coal" then Harper would do better to tell Obama to get stuffed.
CO2-Capture Coal Plants: A Ban by Another Name
I worry this may be the same sort of thing they're pointing towards with tar sands oil.
Come to think of it, could that article which started this thread have been more vague? Lots of buzz words, but not a lot of information.
I think when people see the actual mechanics laid out of what the Americans really have planned they're going to freak.