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Brenda
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 7:48 am
Of course there is no other decision possible than that he would be put in a mental facility, and be treated for his schizofrenia. Any other decision will be against the public safety.
After he is found guilty, he should be locked up for life. I don't care where, as far as I am concerned he gets treatment, but he still should be locked up for life. With no chance of parole. IMO, there is not much difference between someone who KNEW what he was doing and killed someone, and someone who didn't rationally know. There is still someone dead. Pay for it.
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ridenrain
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 8:45 am
He's not a Canadian citizen. Why are we keeping him?
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 4:07 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: He's not a Canadian citizen. Why are we keeping him? I heard he was... but if he turns out not to be, I have no idea why he hasn't been deported already.
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 4:22 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: He's not a Canadian citizen. Why are we keeping him? Immigrant from China, he became a citizen in 2005.
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ridenrain
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 5:55 pm
Did he become a Canadian or did he become an immigrant though?
Let's face it.. I doubt there's much demand in Canada for foreign, homicidal wackos so we can probably send him back.
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Brenda
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 6:13 pm
Immigrants cannot become citizens untill they are in Canada for 1085 days (3 years). The days you were outside of Canada, do not count. You have to take a citizenship test to become a citizen. So if is stated he became a citizen in 2005, he became a landed immigrant at least 3 years prior to that, 2002.
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Lemmy
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 7:24 pm
Brenda Brenda: After he is found guilty, he should be locked up for life. I don't care where, as far as I am concerned he gets treatment, but he still should be locked up for life. With no chance of parole. IMO, there is not much difference between someone who KNEW what he was doing and killed someone, and someone who didn't rationally know. There is still someone dead. Pay for it. He's not going to be found guilty. He's already been found NOT GUILTY.
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Brenda
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 7:28 pm
Lemmy Lemmy: Brenda Brenda: After he is found guilty, he should be locked up for life. I don't care where, as far as I am concerned he gets treatment, but he still should be locked up for life. With no chance of parole. IMO, there is not much difference between someone who KNEW what he was doing and killed someone, and someone who didn't rationally know. There is still someone dead. Pay for it. He's not going to be found guilty. He's already been found NOT GUILTY. He has been found mentally ill. If he was found just "not guilty" he would have been walking the streets
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Lemmy
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 7:36 pm
Brenda Brenda: He has been found mentally ill. If he was found just "not guilty" he would have been walking the streets "Mentally ill" isn't a verdict. "Not guilty" by reason of mental disorder, he is. If he can convince the psychiatrists to rub the "INSANE" stamp off his hand, he will be walking the streets. Likely, he'll be locked up for life, but he'll never be anything other than "not guilty" of this murder.
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Brenda
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 7:42 pm
I'm not a psychiatrist, nor a lawyer, nor a judge.
Tell me, what would the difference be if he was found guilty, and completely sane?
Oh, right, he would be out in, say... 10 years
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Lemmy
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 7:57 pm
Brenda Brenda: I'm not a psychiatrist, nor a lawyer, nor a judge.
Tell me, what would the difference be if he was found guilty, and completely sane?
Oh, right, he would be out in, say... 10 years No, if he had been found guilty of 1st degree murder, he'd have gotten a life sentence with no chance of parole for 25 years (minimum sentence for this offence, Brenda). Maybe EyeBrock could comment; he's better versed than I on criminal law.
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