PLO executive committee member Hanan Ashrawi lashed out at Israel today over what she described as “war crimes” and the “deliberate massacre” of Palestinian civilians during Israel’s current ground offensive in the Gaza Strip.
“This morning, it’s nothing short of a massacre, a deliberate massacre. War crimes committed daily. But now there is a deliberate shelling and bombing and destruction of whole areas, of residential areas,” Ashrawi said on “This Week.”
“These are war crimes being committed before the world, before the eyes of the whole world and I just can’t understand how people sit back and say [it's] self-defense. I just can’t take the language, I can’t take the propaganda, I can’t take the mantra that Israel has a right to defend itself. Against whom? Against innocent civilians? More than 80 children have been torn to bits. Is this self-defense?” Ashrawi added in her extended interview with ABC’s Hamish Macdonald reporting today from Ramallah.
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Israel showing signs of desperation, only for so long you keep telling lies of self defence while engaged in a massacre of civilians.
Students offered grants if they tweet pro-Israeli propaganda.
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In a campaign to improve its image abroad, the Israeli government plans to provide scholarships to hundreds of students at its seven universities in exchange for their making pro-Israel Facebook posts and tweets to foreign audiences
A computer lab staffed by students in an Israeli university is playing a key role in the war of information in the Gaza conflict.....According to Igal Raich, a 23-year-old IDC student who volunteers in what is called "The Advocacy Room", the project aims to counter what is perceived as a false representation of Israel in international and social media through Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.
“It is run by students who are all volunteers,” said Raich, who grew up in Canada before moving to Israel to study and also served in the Israeli military. “The school gave us a computer lab to work from and from nine in the morning until eight at night it is constantly full with student volunteers.”
Which brings me to another question, is it allowed for Canadian and American citizens to go join another country's army and fight on its behalf. From the few million threads in this forum I feel its not and people have expressed that such people should be stripped of their citizenship, sent back home etc etc ?
So much for the claim of don't bring your shit to our shores, because you certainly are taking your shit to their shores.
A friend who's family was from Israel moved there and joined the Military after she graduated highschool and turned 18 because she felt it was her duty, she wasn't taking her shit to their shores so that comment is way off.
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PLO executive committee member Hanan Ashrawi lashed out at Israel today over what she described as “war crimes” and the “deliberate massacre” of Palestinian civilians during Israel’s current ground offensive in the Gaza Strip.
“This morning, it’s nothing short of a massacre, a deliberate massacre. War crimes committed daily. But now there is a deliberate shelling and bombing and destruction of whole areas, of residential areas,” Ashrawi said on “This Week.”
“These are war crimes being committed before the world, before the eyes of the whole world and I just can’t understand how people sit back and say [it's] self-defense. I just can’t take the language, I can’t take the propaganda, I can’t take the mantra that Israel has a right to defend itself. Against whom? Against innocent civilians? More than 80 children have been torn to bits. Is this self-defense?” Ashrawi added in her extended interview with ABC’s Hamish Macdonald reporting today from Ramallah.
That Bitch is guilty as Arafat for what they did to the Palestinians.
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Ezra's petition regarding the Calgary violence. I signed it,
So did I.
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desertdude desertdude:
while engaged in a massacre of civilians.
More whining for nothing.
500 is not a massacre, you abuse the word or don't know how to speak English, just like that rich cow Ashrawi.
Get your death toll up around 20 - 25,000, then maybe you have something to say.
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desertdude desertdude:
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PLO executive committee member Hanan Ashrawi lashed out at Israel today over what she described as “war crimes” and the “deliberate massacre” of Palestinian civilians during Israel’s current ground offensive in the Gaza Strip.
“This morning, it’s nothing short of a massacre, a deliberate massacre. War crimes committed daily. But now there is a deliberate shelling and bombing and destruction of whole areas, of residential areas,” Ashrawi said on “This Week.”
“These are war crimes being committed before the world, before the eyes of the whole world and I just can’t understand how people sit back and say [it's] self-defense. I just can’t take the language, I can’t take the propaganda, I can’t take the mantra that Israel has a right to defend itself. Against whom? Against innocent civilians? More than 80 children have been torn to bits. Is this self-defense?” Ashrawi added in her extended interview with ABC’s Hamish Macdonald reporting today from Ramallah.
Well, that's what happens when you declare a war of extermination as Palestine did some 70 years ago. Now they're crying about being "exterminated" after 70 years of indiscriminate attacks on Israeli civilians. The ink wasn't even dry on the two state solution before Palestine vowed to wipe Israel from the map.
The only enemy of the Palestinian people are the fucking criminals who run what's left of Palestine. And the best part is, now the PALs are crying "war crimes" despite the 70 years of war crimes they've committed. I can't think of a single attack from Palestine that even attempted to hit legitimate military targets. All too often they seem to like blowing up school buses. Is that self-defense?
They hide weapons and ammo in places like schools, hospitals and mosques and then the world gets all pissed off at Israel when a school, hospital or mosque gets bombed. Talk about propaganda. And what makes that propaganda so amazing is no-one gives a damn that they hide weapons and ammo in those kinds of buildings, until one gets bombed, and then Israel gets shit on for it.
I don't see how anyone can claim Israel didn't want peace. They might not give much of a damn about it now simply because the Palestinians have taken every olive branch Israel has offered and tried to shove it up Israel's ass. Jordan and Egypt got the land back that Israel took from them and they've left Israel alone ever since. Of course I'm sure the complete and utter ass kicking they took helped to make the transition to peace with those countries. Palestine OTOH has had land ceded back to it, only to use it within days to attack Israel from.
Palestine openly declared they would NEVER abide by the two state solution and yet after telling the UN to basically go screw a pooch, they constantly invoke the UN to do something about the war they started and won't quit fighting.
So many people blame Israel, which would be funny as hell if it wasn't for the horror show that is the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
And not to put too fine a point on things, it's obvious the Palestinian leadership, whether it's the PLO, Hamas or any other group of whackadoos, can't get along with anyone. Even after Jordan accepted hundreds of thousands Palestinian refugees, the ungrateful shits started a civil war in Jordan.
But yeah, Israel is the problem here
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Fears grow other groups may join Hamas fight vs. Israel after Kerry peace effort fails
This would make a few happy but it probably won't happen as Hezbollah is occupied with Syria. John Kerry was bound to fail if the United States is serious they should send Bill Clinton because he's respected by both sides.
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Any advances Israel claims to have been made during this conflict are really small in comparison to the huge damage they have done to their international image. Massive world protests, more public awareness of their atrocities, huge impact to tourism, more support for the boycott. The smoke screen they use to manipulate the propaganda war has become less effective. social media has made their lies much more difficult to sell.
People around the world are starting to see through the BS and are rightly joining the side of human rights and decency. Even their closest ally sees their barbarism for what it is, they are beholden to the strong pro-Israeli lobby, and have too much invested there not to take their side, but lets not pretend that Kerry's statement "Hell of a pinpoint operation" was an accident.
The UN has labelled this for what it is, a war crime. This will have zero positive impact on Israel or the stability of the region. They will not eliminate the rockets from Gaza and the tunnels will be rebuilt. The 100 or so militants they claim are the target of this massage destruction will not have any real impact on the risks or dangers which are claimed to be the reason for the offensive.
There is only one way to view this conflict and it doesn't amount to an Israeli victory.
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Sounds more like Israel is being quietly sanctioned by the West for defending itself.
Republican Sen. Ted Cruz on Wednesday questioned whether President Barack Obama used a federal agency to impose an economic boycott on Israel after the Federal Aviation Administration banned U.S. airline flights to Tel Aviv because of safety concerns amid fighting between Israel and Hamas.
The State Department rejected Cruz's comments as "ridiculous and offensive."
"The facts suggest that President Obama has just used a federal regulatory agency to launch an economic boycott on Israel, in order to try to force our ally to comply with his foreign-policy demands," Cruz said in a statement in which he posed five questions about the agency's actions, including whether it was politically motivated.
The FAA said its prohibition was in response to a rocket strike that landed about a mile from the airport as hostilities between Israel and Hamas militants rages on, with more than hundreds of Palestinians and dozens of Israelis killed in intense fighting.
The FAA's actions also come after a Malaysian jetliner was shot down over Ukraine where pro-Russia separatists have been battling government forces. Rebels shot down two Ukrainian fighter jets on Wednesday.
Cruz said tourism is an $11 billion industry for Israel and the flight ban may be a crippling blow. Long before the flight prohibition, the fighting could have affected tourism in Israel.
State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf called the Texas senator's comments "ridiculous and offensive." She said the FAA makes its "decision based solely on the security and safety of American citizens, period."
Catherine Frazier, a spokeswoman for Cruz, said the Obama administration's foreign policy was itself "ridiculous and offensive."
In a statement, the powerful American Israel Public Affairs Committee, which holds considerable sway with Congress, expressed concerns with the FAA ban and urged a review of the policy.
AIPAC said Israel has been subjected to hundreds of rockets the past two weeks and air travel has been safe and uninterrupted.
"The American people have shown in this difficult moment that they stand strongly with our democratic ally," AIPAC said. "Now is not the time to send the entirely wrong message with a ban on flights to Israel."
The FAA said Wednesday it is working closely with the Israeli government to review new information it has provided and to determine whether safety concerns have been resolved.
No, they are being responsible and making sure planes don't fly into warzones - you know to prevent tragedy's like the downing of MH17 last week. After all, aren't we constantly hearing about how deadly all these Hamas rockets/missiles are. If they are as deadly as Israel affirms, then it's prudence, pure and simple.
If someone really wants to fly to Israel, there are still options like El Al and other airlines which are maintaining flights.
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Delwin Delwin:
Any advances Israel claims to have been made during this conflict are really small in comparison to the huge damage they have done to their international image. Massive world protests, more public awareness of their atrocities, huge impact to tourism, more support for the boycott. The smoke screen they use to manipulate the propaganda war has become less effective. social media has made their lies much more difficult to sell.
People around the world are starting to see through the BS and are rightly joining the side of human rights and decency. Even their closest ally sees their barbarism for what it is, they are beholden to the strong pro-Israeli lobby, and have too much invested there not to take their side, but lets not pretend that Kerry's statement "Hell of a pinpoint operation" was an accident.
The UN has labelled this for what it is, a war crime. This will have zero positive impact on Israel or the stability of the region. They will not eliminate the rockets from Gaza and the tunnels will be rebuilt. The 100 or so militants they claim are the target of this massage destruction will not have any real impact on the risks or dangers which are claimed to be the reason for the offensive.
There is only one way to view this conflict and it doesn't amount to an Israeli victory.
I don't agree. We do this every time there is one of these flare ups. Each side has strong entrenched positions, lots of outrage directed at either side, and nothing changes. Israel knows that as long as it doesn't go too far at any one time, it can just slowly push the Palestinians off their land. The old boil a frog starting with cold water trick.
I don't see an Israeli victory except for a two state solution. Drive the Palestinians into the Jordan, and Israel becomes forever known as an ethnic cleanser, something that even their continuing reference to the shoa will not erase. Create Bantustans within Israel, and they become South Africa, with their claims of being a democratic country totally shown to be false. How it is they can't see this is beyond me.
But then the Palestinians are being good little patsies, playing their part of the game. Suicides and rockets may sound all glorious, but no way they can win this way, and they just keep giving Israel the excuse it needs for further depredations. I don't think the Palestinians are the sharpest knives in the drawer. DD wasn't happy with this when I said it last time, but I think it has something to do with Arab culture, and even Islam, which seems to be the only religion that actually advocates holy war in it's holy book. The Christians are being hypocrites when they go to war in the name of God, the Muslims aren't.
Actually, forgot about the Jews - holocausting goes right back to their beginnings, ie Canaan. Guess for the most part after that they just never had the chance to follow their book again after that.
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bootlegga bootlegga:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Sounds more like Israel is being quietly sanctioned by the West for defending itself.
Republican Sen. Ted Cruz on Wednesday questioned whether President Barack Obama used a federal agency to impose an economic boycott on Israel after the Federal Aviation Administration banned U.S. airline flights to Tel Aviv because of safety concerns amid fighting between Israel and Hamas.
The State Department rejected Cruz's comments as "ridiculous and offensive."
"The facts suggest that President Obama has just used a federal regulatory agency to launch an economic boycott on Israel, in order to try to force our ally to comply with his foreign-policy demands," Cruz said in a statement in which he posed five questions about the agency's actions, including whether it was politically motivated.
The FAA said its prohibition was in response to a rocket strike that landed about a mile from the airport as hostilities between Israel and Hamas militants rages on, with more than hundreds of Palestinians and dozens of Israelis killed in intense fighting.
The FAA's actions also come after a Malaysian jetliner was shot down over Ukraine where pro-Russia separatists have been battling government forces. Rebels shot down two Ukrainian fighter jets on Wednesday.
Cruz said tourism is an $11 billion industry for Israel and the flight ban may be a crippling blow. Long before the flight prohibition, the fighting could have affected tourism in Israel.
State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf called the Texas senator's comments "ridiculous and offensive." She said the FAA makes its "decision based solely on the security and safety of American citizens, period."
Catherine Frazier, a spokeswoman for Cruz, said the Obama administration's foreign policy was itself "ridiculous and offensive."
In a statement, the powerful American Israel Public Affairs Committee, which holds considerable sway with Congress, expressed concerns with the FAA ban and urged a review of the policy.
AIPAC said Israel has been subjected to hundreds of rockets the past two weeks and air travel has been safe and uninterrupted.
"The American people have shown in this difficult moment that they stand strongly with our democratic ally," AIPAC said. "Now is not the time to send the entirely wrong message with a ban on flights to Israel."
The FAA said Wednesday it is working closely with the Israeli government to review new information it has provided and to determine whether safety concerns have been resolved.
No, they are being responsible and making sure planes don't fly into warzones - you know to prevent tragedy's like the downing of MH17 last week. After all, aren't we constantly hearing about how deadly all these Hamas rockets/missiles are. If they are as deadly as Israel affirms, then it's prudence, pure and simple.
If someone really wants to fly to Israel, there are still options like El Al and other airlines which are maintaining flights.
And it's purely coincidental that less than 24 hours after Senator Cruz calls bullsh*t on the flight sanctions they've been revoked.
Any advances Israel claims to have been made during this conflict are really small in comparison to the huge damage they have done to their international image.
What nonsense. Hamas fires over 1800 missiles into Israel and you worry about how Israel is viewed by fashionable leftists who hate Israel anyway.
I assure you that no one in Israel gives a flying f*ck what their 'image' is among people who hate them anyway.
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K, so you are speaking on behalf of all of the people of Israel? Cool, do you part seas as well?
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Brazil recalls Israel envoy to protest 'disproportionate force' in Gaza Brazil follows Ecuador's decision a day earlier, as well as the UN human rights council's decision to open commission of inquiry into Israel' 'war crimes.'
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"The Brazilian government considers unacceptable escalation of violence between Israel and Palestine. We strongly condemn the disproportionate use of force by Israel in the Gaza Strip, from which large numbers of civilian casualties, including women and children resulted," the Brazilian government said in its statement. "The Brazilian Government reiterates his call for an immediate ceasefire between the parties."
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