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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 11:09 am
 


stratos stratos:
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Not every breast cancer patient gets chemo, true. But chemo is the only one that causes hair loss other than just on the radiation site.



Finaly the answwer to the question I was asking. ROTFL

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I'm sorry, but your 'fishy' made me REALLY mad. She has cancer, but she is bullshitting because she is bald, but can't be from chemo because the article says so?


Sorry just seen your above post that I quoted. My Fishy is to the whole story, not that she has cancer just the "Facts" given. Shepardsdog cleared up what part it was that stunk. Artical does make it sound like the June treatment is the first treatment. Thus my wondering why she was bald and if other forms of treatment would have caused it.

Now with that in mind, how long is the normal span between treatments? In the past it was something like 2-3 weeks between treatments. Past being the 80's so maybe my memories of my Grandmothers treatment are wrong. If the period between treatments are say 6 weeks or so then yeah I can see starting her CM the morning of a treatment. Like I said perviously half day opening deal. That afternoon she goes off for Chemo and a couple weeks later back in court. At least thats how I would see this going.

Let's just stick to that was a very poorly written article :lol:

My friend with Lymphoma underwent aggressive chemo every 3 weeks (and like I said before, then suffered 4 days at least with a chemo brain (she explained it as a severe flu-head (not a cold...), foggy, feeling drunk, just missing time, not remembering, saying weird stuff that doesn't make sense, as well as vomiting, not eating, not drinking) and got worse with every round. She had 8.
As maintenance, she undergoes a round of less aggressive (and less side effects) chemo every 3 months.

However... my next door neighbour had breast cancer last year, got surgery which removed her breast tissue, and 8 rounds of chemo (less aggressive, I assume) and was hardly sick at all. Every 3 weeks for her as well. She also underwent 5 weeks of radiation therapy every day.

Both went bald.

What I got from the story is that the CM starts the morning of chemo, and will last the rest of week, hence my comment wondering if she would be well enough...


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 11:21 am
 


End of the story, in the military you do not call in sick, you report to the medical care unit.

You are not free to come and go as you please, you do not get to just not go to work one day because you don't feel like it. Every time I left work, I was given instructions on when and where to report to my next duty. I have seen people charged with similar charges for being less than 120s late for their next duty, and got hit with drill and extra duty punishment after an offical hearing. Now those people tended to have problems with showing up on time and ready. Most often someone that was late got hit with a 24hr duty shift manning the front desk on a weekend.

This leads me to believe that this sailor had more problems in the past with things like showing up for work on time and ready to work.

The only reason this is a story is because she has cancer. Well that cancer wasn't going to kill her right then so she has no slack for not showing up for work.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 11:27 am
 


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The only reason this is a story is because she has cancer.
That I agree with. I also doubt that this time was the only time she did something she shouldn't have. Although I have no clue, it seems a bit over the top to me to cm someone over a one time occurrence.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 11:34 am
 


Yeah my Grandmother was like your friends treatment and side affects. Not so much saying weird things but the time loss bit she would comment on. Pluss the sickness afterwards. First time she got sick she actualy thought it was the flu. Her treatment started in the winter. I really don't recall what type of Cancer she did have. I don't think it was breast cancer I think it was lung but could be wrong.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 11:53 am
 


Well, all charges against her have now been dropped

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scot ... l?cmp=fbtl


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 11:56 am
 


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As late as Thursday afternoon, the military planned on pursuing a court martial against Deyoung. Her trial was set to start on Tuesday, the same day as Deyoung is scheduled to start her second round of chemotherapy.

...second round of chemotherapy

Guess that answers THAT question.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 12:01 pm
 


that was already mentioned on the previous page. The original article made no ention of it being her second round and made it sound like it was just starting. The news clip stated that she was starting a new round. Piss poor writing.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 12:04 pm
 


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Yeah my Grandmother was like your friends treatment and side affects. Not so much saying weird things but the time loss bit she would comment on. Pluss the sickness afterwards. First time she got sick she actualy thought it was the flu. Her treatment started in the winter. I really don't recall what type of Cancer she did have. I don't think it was breast cancer I think it was lung but could be wrong.

My friends husband recorded some of what she said. It was hilarious!
She has a fantastic sense of humor, so she could laugh at it herself (hence why her hubby had no problem recording it and let others listen to it). She recalls nothing of it :lol:

Yet my breast cancer neighbor just took the week off sick when she had chemo, so she would get paid, instead of only taking the day she needed, because then she would not get paid. Weird. She had very little side effects. Weird how that is different per person.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 12:14 pm
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
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DrCaleb DrCaleb:

It's CBC's fault, unless they break stories about Senator Duffy dontchaknow? Then they are good. And not mentioned.

I'd +5 you, but it's too soon. :(


Just in case you misunderstood. This is one of those things that DND doesn't like occurring because it wouldn't pass a media litmus test - or the Globe and Mail test. Irrespective of what the sailor did, the media and public will focus on a woman suffering from not only a permanent medical category that will have her released, but a positive for breast cancer. The only thing that makes it worse is the fact hat the CM is occurring on a chemo day.

There is a lot of failure here.


Ah! Sorry, you should quote more often. I thought you were responding to Nuggie/Benn's blaming the messenger when it suits them.


I was responding to the story in general.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 12:17 pm
 


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But only a group of maniacs of which not everyone in the military is, would allow these charges to proceed if there wasn't something more to the story than what we're getting.


Only thing is the 2hr period of time. Wich wont come out till the CM. I still don't get why she chose the CM over the lesser forms of Judical hearings. Maybe the Canadian Military Judical system is way diff then the US in this regard.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 12:19 pm
 


Xort Xort:
End of the story, in the military you do not call in sick, you report to the medical care unit.


Wrong.....again. A CO delegates authority in a division for the granting of non MO approved sick leave up to 2 days. That's part of QR&Os and unit SOPs and not a Xortpinion.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 12:35 pm
 


a flatulent individual with loose bowels a flatulent individual with loose bowels:
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Excuse you.....but good to see you're getting plenty of fibre in your diet


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 1:01 pm
 


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a flatulent individual with loose bowels a flatulent individual with loose bowels:
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Excuse you.....but good to see you're getting plenty of fibre in your diet


It felt good to release.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 7:36 pm
 


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If she had legit reason for taking 2hrs to get to the hospital I don't think the Military would have an issue with her. To say ohhh she has cancer leave her be is not the point. She, at the time of the incident, did not know she had cancer so what exactly was she doing during the 2hr period? I feel sorry for her and wish her the best. I think its kind of blowing things out of preportion to do the whole Court Martial but then again she was given opptions of lesser forms of judical hearings and chose to go this route. Now she wants to complain about having to deal with it.

I know it sounds like I'm taking both sides but what it comes down to for me is what is the reason it took 2hrs for you to get to the Hospital. The rest is either the Military over reacting or her now complaining about the choices she made in regards for wanting the Court Martial procedings when given the option for less stressfull hearings.


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