[ridenrain]

Would that be the gangmembers who are killed every couple of days here in BC?

[Blue_Nose]

I'm not sure why you think pure speculation is a rational argument, or did I miss something that suggests that "gangmembers" are flocking to Insite and then being killed?

[ridenrain]

Is the government supplying these addicts their illegal drugs?
Those drugs must come from somewhere and the connection between gangs and illegal drugs is proven.

Are more addicts being freed from addiction than people being murdered?

[Scape]

Rain could be high on crack again Blue.

[Deiwos]

I pretty sure that somewhere in those reports, at least one of them, if not more (I'm pretty sure the one I am thinking of was the one commissioned by the Conservative government) showed evidence that people who used the Insite location frequently were more likely to seek treatment for their addiction, and more likely to stay clean.

While I can understand why someone would think a location like this would increase drug problems, the facts say otherwise, and hold a little more weight than speculation.

[DerbyX]

Scape Scape:

Rain could be high on crack again Blue.

It would certainly explain a great many of his posts and his subsequent beliefs.

I posted about that possibility as well as wondering about heavy metals/pesticide contamination in his water supply.

[C.M. Burns]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Scape Scape:

Rain could be high on crack again Blue.

It would certainly explain a great many of his posts and his subsequent beliefs.

I posted about that possibility as well as wondering about heavy metals/pesticide contamination in his water supply.

I've been trying to spread the word but riden doesn't seem to be getting the message. Tin foil is thinner than it used to be - use two layers in your hat!!!

[C.M. Burns]

Some choice quotes from your posts in this thread:

commanderkai commanderkai:

Remember, if you're a criminal...you can break the law using the taxpayer's needle, in a taxpayer building, while government employees watch you. Nice.

Yes, it is nice that NURSES are there to prevent DEATH, to EDUCATE, to get people into REHAB. In fact, it's fucking great!

commanderkai commanderkai:

Wow, alot of cocky arrogant assholes here too today, along with the "rednecks"...oops I'm sorry that I see heroin abuse as a bad thing.

Let's see what people think about you after reading the rest.

commanderkai commanderkai:

The only positive thing, as Blue nose pointed out, is that needles don't wind up in parks or anywhere else where kids can get them. That's it.

You don't know the first thing about the downtown eastside, do you? But that's the only positive thing? It's not a positive thing that people aren't dying?

commanderkai commanderkai:

But whatever, if the government think it should help support this type of substance abuse, might as well be fair to alcoholism, obesity, and everything else that's considered an addiction now, I'm sure we could find some studies that controlled alcohol abuse will prevent domestic violence and alcohol poisoning too if they're getting watched like hawks.

Well, actually the government has lots of programs for alcoholics and obesity as well as every other addiction! I know you're only 18 but surely you've heard of healthcare and doctors and nurses? They provide treatment for addictions.

commanderkai commanderkai:

But whatever, its nice knowing that they're able to slowly kill themselves from heroin addiction instead of AIDS or a much faster death of ODing.

That's nice? There are just no words...

commanderkai commanderkai:

So looking at all the facts. I see the only positive event for the taxpayers in this country and in that city is that....they're less needles along the street, and are more people going into detox. That's it. The average Canadian has little sympathy for heroin addicts. So we're paying what a private charity could do instead.

Except a private charity wasn't doing it.

commanderkai commanderkai:

I'm sure a good number of you will call me evil or hateful or something else. Oooh a redneck or a Canakkkian or whoever Burns stated it as, guess what? You're wrong. I'm not hateful, I just don't care about the welfare of those who are committing a crime and causing damage to the community, just as much as I wouldn't have sympathy for a pedophile or a gangster. The facts are, according to that, is that less children are finding needles, and to me, that's its biggest factor for it.

Now, let's have a little look at "First Entry. Who is Commanderkai?" commanderkai's first blog:
http://www.canadaka.net/blog/commanderk ... -2566.html

commanderkai commanderkai:

Anyway, I went on about that, since that's where alot of my political and religious insight came from. I'm a realist because people aren't naturally nice and selfless, they're selfish, self-centered, and mean. I also believe in God...of course some might as why would I believe in God when I'm a realist...and that's because I don't think God plays as big of a role as he used to thousands and thousands of years ago. He's letting us go along and do whatever we want. Its our challenge to overcome our own selfishness and our self-centered to see how much we can be good for our fellow man.

So, commanderkai, how much good have you done for your fellow man? I see nothing in this thread but the angry ranting of a massively selfish, self-centered and mean young man. You are a complete hypocrite - heartless and totally devoid of compassion.

hyp·o·crite

1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

[commanderkai]

C.M. Burns C.M. Burns:

Now, let's have a little look at "First Entry. Who is Commanderkai?" commanderkai's first blog:
http://www.canadaka.net/blog/commanderk ... -2566.html

commanderkai commanderkai:

Anyway, I went on about that, since that's where alot of my political and religious insight came from. I'm a realist because people aren't naturally nice and selfless, they're selfish, self-centered, and mean. I also believe in God...of course some might as why would I believe in God when I'm a realist...and that's because I don't think God plays as big of a role as he used to thousands and thousands of years ago. He's letting us go along and do whatever we want. Its our challenge to overcome our own selfishness and our self-centered to see how much we can be good for our fellow man.

So, commanderkai, how much good have you done for your fellow man? I see nothing in this thread but the angry ranting of a massively selfish, self-centered and mean young man. You are a complete hypocrite - heartless and totally devoid of compassion.

hyp·o·crite

1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

Oh Christ, people are going through my blog, this'll be fun.

First I stated that I'm a realist. That I have no real faith in my fellow human beings, because of my personal experiences in my life. So when people make their OWN wrong choices in life, that's THEIR fucking problem, and I won't help them just because they "need help to escape" when it is most likely THEIR FUCKING FAULT THEY GOT ADDICTED. This goes for ALL criminals. I feel no compassion for rapists, murderers, child molesters, gangsters, or anybody else. Rehabilitation to me, is a damn joke when you force them, and so is assisting in their addiction.

I have done things for friends and strangers alike that have helped them through horrid times. So go fuck yourself on trying to judge me. You have no idea what I've done for people, and I have absolutely no reason to put my personal experiences and events on display for the world just because you want bait me into confessing all of my life story.

I explained who I was, not for some fucking debate, but for insight for anyone curious about who I am as a person. I might lack compassion for a fucking heroin addict who probably committed worse crimes to support their addiction. I feel no sympathy or compassion for a person who chose their lifestyle, just like I feel no sympathy for a gangster who gets killed by a rival gang, or a terrorist blown away by a USAF bomb strike.

So there, you can pretend you understand me by reading one fucking paragraph on a damn blog on a website, then fine, pretend that. But there are things that you will never know about me, so go fuck yourself.

[Streaker]

C.M. Burns C.M. Burns:

DerbyX DerbyX:

Scape Scape:

Rain could be high on crack again Blue.

It would certainly explain a great many of his posts and his subsequent beliefs.

I posted about that possibility as well as wondering about heavy metals/pesticide contamination in his water supply.

I've been trying to spread the word but riden doesn't seem to be getting the message. Tin foil is thinner than it used to be - use two layers in your hat!!!

Isn't ride a drunk?

[C.M. Burns]

commanderkai commanderkai:

C.M. Burns C.M. Burns:

Now, let's have a little look at "First Entry. Who is Commanderkai?" commanderkai's first blog:
http://www.canadaka.net/blog/commanderk ... -2566.html

commanderkai commanderkai:

Anyway, I went on about that, since that's where alot of my political and religious insight came from. I'm a realist because people aren't naturally nice and selfless, they're selfish, self-centered, and mean. I also believe in God...of course some might as why would I believe in God when I'm a realist...and that's because I don't think God plays as big of a role as he used to thousands and thousands of years ago. He's letting us go along and do whatever we want. Its our challenge to overcome our own selfishness and our self-centered to see how much we can be good for our fellow man.

So, commanderkai, how much good have you done for your fellow man? I see nothing in this thread but the angry ranting of a massively selfish, self-centered and mean young man. You are a complete hypocrite - heartless and totally devoid of compassion.

hyp·o·crite

1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

Oh Christ, people are going through my blog, this'll be fun.

First I stated that I'm a realist. That I have no real faith in my fellow human beings, because of my personal experiences in my life. So when people make their OWN wrong choices in life, that's THEIR fucking problem, and I won't help them just because they "need help to escape" when it is most likely THEIR FUCKING FAULT THEY GOT ADDICTED. This goes for ALL criminals. I feel no compassion for rapists, murderers, child molesters, gangsters, or anybody else. Rehabilitation to me, is a damn joke when you force them, and so is assisting in their addiction.

I have done things for friends and strangers alike that have helped them through horrid times. So go fuck yourself on trying to judge me. You have no idea what I've done for people, and I have absolutely no reason to put my personal experiences and events on display for the world just because you want bait me into confessing all of my life story.

I explained who I was, not for some fucking debate, but for insight for anyone curious about who I am as a person. I might lack compassion for a fucking heroin addict who probably committed worse crimes to support their addiction. I feel no sympathy or compassion for a person who chose their lifestyle, just like I feel no sympathy for a gangster who gets killed by a rival gang, or a terrorist blown away by a USAF bomb strike.

So there, you can pretend you understand me by reading one fucking paragraph on a damn blog on a website, then fine, pretend that. But there are things that you will never know about me, so go fuck yourself.

I rest my case.

[Streaker]

commanderkai commanderkai:

That I have no real faith in my fellow human beings, because of my personal experiences in my life. So when people make their OWN wrong choices in life, that's THEIR fucking problem, and I won't help them just because they "need help to escape"

Basing a worldview on personal, anecdotal experiences is a mistake, albeit a tempting one.

[ridenrain]

Streaker Streaker:

Isn't ride a drunk?

I believe my human rights are violated because I can't bother to keep my fridge stocked with beer or accurately mix exotic cocktails so I emplore the poverty pimps and government to provide me with such.

I would like to see a list of the people who have recovered from addiction compaired to the number that must be drawn to the nations only legal shooting gallery.

No wonder the gangs are killing each other to maintain position in such a lucritive territory.

[Deiwos]

Also, I think that while having no faith in humankind would normally place you as a pessimist, unless you're using the internet as a sample group from which to draw the normal definition of "realist" from. Calling yourself a "realist", in the face of that, suggests that either you fall somewhere between realist and pessimist, or that you're a pessimist who is in denial about the fact.

[romanP]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Is the government supplying these addicts their illegal drugs?
Those drugs must come from somewhere and the connection between gangs and illegal drugs is proven.

So make the drugs legal, so that people who want to recover can get prescription heroin. Then it'll be clean, and not sold by gangs.