[DrCaleb]

Gunnair Gunnair:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Gunnair Gunnair:

Huh.....another failure of the media litmus test.

It's CBC's fault, unless they break stories about Senator Duffy dontchaknow? Then they are good. And not mentioned.

I'd +5 you, but it's too soon.

Just in case you misunderstood. This is one of those things that DND doesn't like occurring because it wouldn't pass a media litmus test - or the Globe and Mail test. Irrespective of what the sailor did, the media and public will focus on a woman suffering from not only a permanent medical category that will have her released, but a positive for breast cancer. The only thing that makes it worse is the fact hat the CM is occurring on a chemo day.

There is a lot of failure here.

Ah! Sorry, you should quote more often. I thought you were responding to Nuggie/Benn's blaming the messenger when it suits them.

[Brenda]

stratos stratos:

Okay something seems a bit fishy to me. In the pic she appears to be loseing her hair. You do not lose your hair do to cancer, correct? It's the Chemo that causes you to lose your hair. She maybe on some other type of treatment that causes hair loss but i've never heard of any kind that makes you lose your hair.

Any of you know an answer to this?

She gets chemo, what are you talking about?
Actually, on the day of her CM, she ALSO has a chemo session. Chemo is not a one day thing. My friend went through 8 rounds of chemo and had lost all her hair after round 3. Every 3 damned weeks another round of chemo and 4 days of puking, chemo brain and all other shit that comes with it.

Also, there is a condition called Alopecia, that causes hair loss. Has nothing to do with cancer tho.

[DrCaleb]

stratos stratos:

Okay something seems a bit fishy to me. In the pic she appears to be loseing her hair. You do not lose your hair do to cancer, correct? It's the Chemo that causes you to lose your hair. She maybe on some other type of treatment that causes hair loss but i've never heard of any kind that makes you lose your hair.

Any of you know an answer to this?

Both Chemo and Radiation treatments can cause you to lose your hair, but radiation tends to only be local hair loss.

[ShepherdsDog]

Brenda Brenda:

stratos stratos:

Okay something seems a bit fishy to me. In the pic she appears to be loseing her hair. You do not lose your hair do to cancer, correct? It's the Chemo that causes you to lose your hair. She maybe on some other type of treatment that causes hair loss but i've never heard of any kind that makes you lose your hair.

Any of you know an answer to this?

She gets chemo, what are you talking about?
Actually, on the day of her CM, she ALSO has a chemo session. Chemo is not a one day thing. My friend went through 8 rounds of chemo and had lost all her hair after round 3. Every 3 damned weeks another round of chemo and 4 days of puking, chemo brain and all other shit that comes with it.

Also, there is a condition called Alopecia, that causes hair loss. Has nothing to do with cancer tho.

I thought she hadn't started treatment yet

[Brenda]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Brenda Brenda:

stratos stratos:

Okay something seems a bit fishy to me. In the pic she appears to be loseing her hair. You do not lose your hair do to cancer, correct? It's the Chemo that causes you to lose your hair. She maybe on some other type of treatment that causes hair loss but i've never heard of any kind that makes you lose your hair.

Any of you know an answer to this?

She gets chemo, what are you talking about?
Actually, on the day of her CM, she ALSO has a chemo session. Chemo is not a one day thing. My friend went through 8 rounds of chemo and had lost all her hair after round 3. Every 3 damned weeks another round of chemo and 4 days of puking, chemo brain and all other shit that comes with it.

Also, there is a condition called Alopecia, that causes hair loss. Has nothing to do with cancer tho.

I thought she hadn't started treatment yet

That's what I thought at first, but I cannot imagine any doctor waiting a YEAR with treating cancer. It doesn't say she gets her first round of chemo on her CM date.

[ShepherdsDog]

$1:

Deyoung joined the military 3½ years ago, at age 41. She said she was proud to pass boot camp at her age and was thrilled to be a part of the navy.

“I always wanted to be part of the military. It was something I always dreamed of.”

But Deyoung suffered a back injury at sea, and in a decision unrelated to these charges, she was set to leave the military on June 23. She planned to head overseas and teach English.

Before any of those plans, she faces a year of cancer treatment and a court martial, both starting the same day.

According to the story she hasn't started treatment yet

[Brenda]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

$1:

Deyoung joined the military 3½ years ago, at age 41. She said she was proud to pass boot camp at her age and was thrilled to be a part of the navy.

“I always wanted to be part of the military. It was something I always dreamed of.”

But Deyoung suffered a back injury at sea, and in a decision unrelated to these charges, she was set to leave the military on June 23. She planned to head overseas and teach English.

Before any of those plans, she faces a year of cancer treatment and a court martial, both starting the same day.

According to the story she hasn't started treatment yet

Huh, I must have misread.
Why would anyone wait a year with treating cancer?

[raydan]

Is it possible that a reporter got his facts wrong... say it ain't so!

[Brenda]

raydan raydan:

Is it possible that a reporter got his facts wrong... say it ain't so!

The article is written very poorly anyway...

[stratos]

$1:

Both Chemo and Radiation treatments can cause you to lose your hair, but radiation tends to only be local hair loss.

Yes, after having family members and friends go through Cancer treatment back in the 80's and 90's I know about the Chemo hair loss, forgot about area raditation loss. My question and wondering is have they a new oral medication or some sort of none Chemo deal that might cause hair loss now? As the artical stated she wont start treatment till June and this is currently May. I've not kept up with any advances in treatments for the past decade or so.

[stratos]

$1:

Huh, I must have misread.
Why would anyone wait a year with treating cancer?

You asked a simular question earlier, page 1, prior to responding to my questioning of the photo brenda. So you knew she was not getting treatment so why then would you write this on page 3

$1:

She gets chemo, what are you talking about?

[Brenda]

stratos stratos:

$1:

Huh, I must have misread.
Why would anyone wait a year with treating cancer?

You asked a simular question earlier, page 1, prior to responding to my questioning of the photo brenda. So you knew she was not getting treatment so why then would you write this on page 3

$1:

She gets chemo, what are you talking about?

Omg, is it Monday for you?

Let me type really slow. NO ONE would wait a YEAR with starting cancer treatment. My 'question' was not a jab at her, but at the journalist.

I doubt she is not getting treatment, I am pretty sure she lost her hair due (not 'do') to chemo, and I also believe that starting CM on the same day as going in for chemo (regardless whether it is your first or your last) is cruel.

So, tell me. What is 'fishy' to you? The poorly written article, the woman, the CM?

[stratos]

Here lets make it very simple for you and I will type very very slowly for you. First you wondered why she is having to wait so long to start Chemo. I then stated that something about the photo seems fishy because as far as I knew only Chemo caused hair loss. I then went on to ask if anyone knew of any other type of treatment that would cause hair loss.


You replied that

$1:

She gets chemo, what are you talking about?

In the artical it clearly states she will not start Chemo till June in the afternoon. This is the same day she starts her CM in the morning. The current month is May. Thus she can not have started Chemo.

The artical does state that she is doing agressive treatment currently. I assume some sort of oral medication. Possible Radiation treatment like Dr. Caleb pointed out as a possible cause.

Now my issue is that you seem to on page 1 realise that she is having to wait for Chemo to start yet on page 3 in response to my statement that the photo seems fishy want to asert that she is on Chemo. A few posting later you then claim to have misread the artical and that it was a poorly writen artical. So why did you post what you did in response to questioning of the photo?

[Brenda]

Alopecia is another assumption. See? Problem solved. I just decided she has alopecia as well.

I didn't read the article today again. I assume the journalist just fucked up his facts. But then again, that would be weird, right? Weirder than waiting a year with cancer treatment, because that is apparently the norm. If you make it that long.

Radiation is now an oral treatment? Ok.

[stratos]

$1:

Radiation is now an oral treatment? Ok.

Never said that it was the previous sentence I stated that

$1:

I assume some sort of oral medication.

as a possible meaning to the term agressive treatment. In the next sentence ( key point there) I gave the example of Radiation treatment like Dr. Caleb had pointed out. I at no time said that radiation is now an oral treatment. Please do not put words into my mouth.

$1:

I assume the journalist just fucked up his facts. But then again, that would be weird, right? Weirder than waiting a year with cancer treatment, because that is apparently the norm.

The artical does not say that she waited a year for treatment. It, the artical, does say that she doing agressive treatment. Possibly they, the DR's, are doing or have done all types of treatment prior to the last resort of Chemo.

And thus back to my questioning of what type would cause the hair loss. Your response that it

$1:

Alopecia is another assumption. See? Problem solved. I just decided she has alopecia as well.

is childish at best.
Your response to my intial posting condridicted your previous post and postings after. Now why would you do that? Did you not understand that I was asking about what other types of treatment would cause hair loss or was it the fact that it was me posting?