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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:45 pm
 


There's movement afoot to end secret balloting for unions, I believe. Which will probably spell an end to unions. So that the aforementiojned plutocrats can get things back on track of having workers pay them for the privilege of a job. :lol:


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You don't lose your Union job for voting for your candidate of choice. In fact, the historically close and official and very public ties between NDP and unions have not often translated into NDP votes, despite the unions' near-constant endorsement.

Also note that this threat isn't about punishing workers who vote the wrong way, which is why he'll get away with saying it. This jerk-off is saying is that even if all his workers/serfs/subjects loyally vote GOP, they will still get canned...even if business revenues are left alone....if Obama is reelected and Majesty's personal taxes go up for the wealthy.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:42 pm
 


The guy is a tool. More impressed with notoriety, big tits and a house he can't afford. Hope he enjoys his last minute or two of fame.............regardless who is elected.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:43 am
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
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I have to question this guys decision making skills if he's willing to shut down his business before he knows what the impact would be. Sounds like he's not doing well and is trying to lay the ground work for blame.


Sounds to me like he knows exactly what's going on. If Obama gets re-elected then Obamacare won't get repealed and that means this fellow's business will be impacted by that fact. If his profit margins drop to where it makes more sense to just close the business and invest in something else then that's a business decision.

As to those people on this board who think that's a cold decision then let me ask:

Instead of shopping at Wal Mart and buying cheap crap from China that was probably made with slave labor, do you buy Canadian or US made clothing? Do you buy from local small businesses or because it saves you some money are you selfishly contributing to the fortunes of the Walton family while putting your fellow Canadians/Americans out of work? Hmmm?

If so, you're making the exact same kinds of decisions with your money that these business owners are making with theirs.

And, kindly note, businesses are not charities. They exist because the people who built them depend on them for an income. They are not philanthropic enterprises and that is not a problem! These private enterprises provide the tax revenues that keep our governments functioning and anyone who does not consider the health of their business community when making national decisions is an idiot. Period.

Some of the people here who have antagonistic attitudes towards business while at the same time expecting those businesses to support their Utopian social programs are the absolute paradigm of ignorance.

Why not sit down to a nice dinner and castigate the farmers, fishermen, and ranchers who made your dinner possible? Why not? I know plenty of people who stupidly can't connect the dots between the people who produce their food and the food on the shelf at the grocery store.

I can excuse some of you for this kind of ignorance for the simple reason you've never had a job and you live at home and you just can't make the mental connection between a job and a roof over your head because you've never done jack sh*t to provide for yourself anyway. Your warm house and the food on the table just magically appears in your world. And since it magically appears you think you can just order people to make things for you and deny them any benefit from their labors.

But for those of you who work for a living you have no excuse for this ignorance. If your taxes go up by 20% then your net income correspondingly drops and you have to cut back expenses. You live with that reality yet you think someone else is supposed to deny it.

Seriously, I think some of you morons (You'll know who you are because you'll whine about my calling you a 'moron') won't be happy until your country (whatever country that is) is an economic ruin like Greece, Italy, or Spain. And then you'll still bleat abut the rich as if they and not you had everything to do with your poverty.

To quote Tom Voo: "If you don't know what it takes to create wealth then you deserve to be poor!"


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:46 am
 


Thanos Thanos:
Secret balloting is safe for now. The problem is that these fucking rat bastard oligarchs aren't above nailing someone for expressing an opinion counter to theirs in the workplace, or even on their off-hours in social media because all-powerful massa has his lackeys monitoring Facebook or Twitter for things they don't like. If some schlub in the clerical pool makes a comment at the watercooler or on Facebook that he, for example, doesn't like Romney because someone he knows lost his job at a company Bain Capital raped to death, or that he likes Obamacare because it's helping his parents out, then he shouldn't have to worry about losing his goddamn job over it.


So much for the land of the free and the home of the brave...


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:57 am
 


jj2424 jj2424:
Oh come on you guys are being ridiculous. Have any of you ever been in a union?
None of them ever tell their members how to vote XD
Geez give me a break.

Should we charge all unions with interference when they make voting "recommendations" to their members?

There's an important distinction between one's employer and one's union that is apparently lost on you. Unions exist to provide services to their members. That's why unionized workers give unions their money: to represent their best interests. That's an altogether different relationship than the employer-employee relationship. A unionized employee should expect and welcome advice from the union on which candidates/parties are likely to support their interests. That's one of the reasons unionized workers pay union dues.

Union offering its members advice on which party supports their interests? Absolutely acceptable, in fact that's what's SUPPOSED to happen if the union's doing its job. Boss threatening his employees with dismissal if they don't vote his way? Absolutely unacceptable and likely criminal.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:05 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Regina Regina:
I have to question this guys decision making skills if he's willing to shut down his business before he knows what the impact would be. Sounds like he's not doing well and is trying to lay the ground work for blame.


Sounds to me like he knows exactly what's going on. If Obama gets re-elected then Obamacare won't get repealed and that means this fellow's business will be impacted by that fact. If his profit margins drop to where it makes more sense to just close the business and invest in something else then that's a business decision.

As to those people on this board who think that's a cold decision then let me ask:

Instead of shopping at Wal Mart and buying cheap crap from China that was probably made with slave labor, do you buy Canadian or US made clothing? Do you buy from local small businesses or because it saves you some money are you selfishly contributing to the fortunes of the Walton family while putting your fellow Canadians/Americans out of work? Hmmm?

If so, you're making the exact same kinds of decisions with your money that these business owners are making with theirs.

And, kindly note, businesses are not charities. They exist because the people who built them depend on them for an income. They are not philanthropic enterprises and that is not a problem! These private enterprises provide the tax revenues that keep our governments functioning and anyone who does not consider the health of their business community when making national decisions is an idiot. Period.

Some of the people here who have antagonistic attitudes towards business while at the same time expecting those businesses to support their Utopian social programs are the absolute paradigm of ignorance.

Why not sit down to a nice dinner and castigate the farmers, fishermen, and ranchers who made your dinner possible? Why not? I know plenty of people who stupidly can't connect the dots between the people who produce their food and the food on the shelf at the grocery store.

I can excuse some of you for this kind of ignorance for the simple reason you've never had a job and you live at home and you just can't make the mental connection between a job and a roof over your head because you've never done jack sh*t to provide for yourself anyway. Your warm house and the food on the table just magically appears in your world. And since it magically appears you think you can just order people to make things for you and deny them any benefit from their labors.

But for those of you who work for a living you have no excuse for this ignorance. If your taxes go up by 20% then your net income correspondingly drops and you have to cut back expenses. You live with that reality yet you think someone else is supposed to deny it.

Seriously, I think some of you morons (You'll know who you are because you'll whine about my calling you a 'moron') won't be happy until your country (whatever country that is) is an economic ruin like Greece, Italy, or Spain. And then you'll still bleat abut the rich as if they and not you had everything to do with your poverty.

To quote Tom Voo: "If you don't know what it takes to create wealth then you deserve to be poor!"


You say so much and yet so little.

No one here is a homeless person who expects business to provide for them while they don't work.

What kind of fantastical world do you live in where such people are common?

The vast majority of people pushing for higher taxes are doing so because they don't feel it's correct or fair that a business pays less for taxes then your average worker.

Seriously Bart are you really going to buy into the total and absolute tripe of the "47%". Common.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:17 pm
 


You know what strikes me about David Siegel?

No class.

The man may have scads of money but he has no class.

The photo shows it, the 90,000 sq ft "palace" shows it, the letter to his employees shows it.

I'm sure that in his rise to fortune he's weathered bigger storms than some as yet speculative Democratic policy directions. And further, he's already sitting on top of the heap; he doesn't have to make threatening noises.


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