[BartSimpson]

Goober911 Goober911:

They say Russia’s accelerated intervention raises the prospect of more direct and more heated fighting between Ukraine and Russia.

This is direct and more heated fighting between Russia and Ukraine. It also lays bare the fact that Russia is waging war on Ukraine and that the so-called 'separatists' are merely Russian proxies.

[BartSimpson]

Winnipegger Winnipegger:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Term limits came in because of Franklin Roosevelt (who was elected four times). When Roosevelt set out to pack the Supreme Court in order to prevent his edicts from being overturned he not only tweaked the Republicans he scared a lot of Democrats who were afraid of a defacto dictatorship. Keep in mind this is the same guy who refused to rescue the Jews in Europe and who put American citizens in prison just because of their race. He was no hero.

We also oppose the idea of keeping someone in office when there's a war on because that's an invitation for someone to 'wag the dog' and start a war as an excuse to indefinitely delay an election.

Even during our civil war we held elections right on schedule because what's the point of a republic if the first time things get rough you abandon it?

Good point. In fact recent presidents have been accused of starting wars just because Americans tend to support their president during war. But I still think term limits are stupid, war or not. And don't Supreme Court nominees have to be ratified by Congress?

Looks like we'll have to disagree on term limits.

As to the Court the FDR 'court packing' episode tarred FDR as a potential dictator by both parties and it was with bipartisan support that the term limits amendment was passed by 2/3 of the state legislatures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_P ... ll_of_1937

[andyt]

Russia firing artillery at Ukraine troops, U.S. says

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-cr ... -1.2718713

[andyt]

Russia massing troops at border and sending heavier weapons to rebels - CBC

[PluggyRug]

Putin is playing a rather risky game of brinkmanship.

[Winnipegger]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

Putin is playing a rather risky game of brinkmanship.

Americans are masters of brinksmanship. Play America's game by America's rules, and you lose.

[saturn_656]

(Some?) Dutch troops have been consigned to barracks in preparation for a possible deployment to the crash site, according to their defence ministry. Australia is reported to also be prepping a force to join them.

Wonder if the rebels know enough to steer clear of them.

[Winnipegger]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

(Some?) Dutch troops have been consigned to barracks in preparation for a possible deployment to the crash site, according to their defence ministry. Australia is reported to also be prepping a force to join them.

Wonder if the rebels know enough to steer clear of them.

I hope transport aircraft are escorted by NATO "wild weasels".

[saturn_656]

My guess is that they'd fly the troops and equipment in to the nearest gov't controlled airstrip and use armoured vehicles to reach the site.

Without allied air dominance and considering all the anti aircraft weaponry possessed by rebels, going in by helicopter would probably be very risky.

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Today in the city of Gorlivka, Russian Grad result.


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The head of Serbian squad is caught today.

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[Winnipegger]

Translation from map on page 152. Title:
СИТУАЦІЯ НА СХОДІ УКРАЇНИ
SITUATION IN EAST UKRAINE

Legend:
Контроль над населеними пунктами:
Дата звільнення
Control over settlements:
Date of release

Людські ресурси терористів:
Місця розташування терористів
Втрати терормстів
Human resources of terrorists:
Location of terrorists
Loss of terrorists

Позиції українських військових
Існуючі
Місця сутичок з терористами
Position of Ukrainian military
Existing
Places clashes with terrorists

Кордон
Ділянка кордону під контролем України
Місця збройних сутичок між Прикордонною України та терористами
Територія, підконтрольна терористам станом на 18 червня
Border
Land border under the control of Ukraine
Place of armed clashes between Border and terrorists
Territory, under the control of terrorists as of 18 June

В Азовському морі, з метою недопущення проникнення диверсійно-розвідувальних груп на узбережжя Донецької областей та охороні рейдів портів Маріуполь та Бердянськ, продовжуеться несення служби сімома корабельно-катерними тактичними групами
In the Azov Sea, in order to prevent the infiltration of subversive-intelligence groups on the coast of Donetsk region and security raids of ports of Mariupol and Berdyansk, continues duty of seven naval tactical groups

Місця розташування цивільних аеропортів
Location of civil airports

Місця розташування військових підрозділів Рф
Location of military units of the Russian Federation

Місця катастрофи Boeing 777 17 липня 2014 року
Boeing 777 crash site July 17, 2014

::Edit:: Cleaner translation:
SITUATION IN EAST UKRAINE

Control over settlements:
Date of release

Human resources of terrorists:
Location of terrorists Loss of terrorists

Position of Ukrainian military
Existing
Places clashes with terrorists

Border
Land border under the control of Ukraine
Place of armed clashes between Border and terrorists
Territory, under the control of terrorists as of 18 June

In the Azov Sea, in order to prevent the infiltration of subversive-intelligence groups on the coast of Donetsk region and security raids of ports of Mariupol and Berdyansk, continues duty of seven naval tactical groups

Location of civil airports

Location of military units of the Russian Federation

Boeing 777 crash site July 17, 2014

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