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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:56 am
 


Continue this fight into winter, with Trump guaranteed to be more belligerent as the arguing goes on, and Trudeau will have a massive bump upwards going into the spring election. If he stands firm I can see him getting 200 seats in the next parliament.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:42 am
 


Christia Freeland made a great speech to the US Senate as well, yesterday.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:12 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
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Its this sense of "America is out to get us" that will drive Trudeau up in the polls. Inarticulate, I know. Its tough to describe.


It'll be kind of ironic if President Trump ends up fueling a resurgence of Canadian nationalism and Canadian identity politics and Lil' Potato ends up benefiting from it!


Not Ironic at all. It’s what we’ve been saying since Trump was elected. Trump is the most reviled leader in the western world everyone looks downright saintly by comparison especially when the reviled buffoon starts threatening people.


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BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Not Ironic at all. It’s what we’ve been saying since Trump was elected. Trump is the most reviled leader in the western world everyone looks downright saintly by comparison especially when the reviled buffoon starts threatening people.


Yep. I can't imagine you being quite so smug when Canada gets gobsmacked by a trade war and then the subsequent election sees a whole new nationalist party come into power as a result.

That's what I mean.

Seriously, who the fuck imagined Europe lurching to the right three years ago? Nigel Farage was John the Baptist crying out and being dismissed as a loon and now a fair chunk of the UK electorate is to his right. Ditto with Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Slovenia, Greece, Romania, Austria, Germany (AfD), and now Italy.

All moved to the right and in several cases the ruling party didn't even exist in the last election.

The same can happen in Canada.

Meaning that as your country reacts to Trump and the new US trade policy it will necessarily move to the right and become protectionist, nationalist, and the result will be a resurgence of the very kind of Canadian identity that your douchebag PM once said had gone extinct.

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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Not Ironic at all. It’s what we’ve been saying since Trump was elected. Trump is the most reviled leader in the western world everyone looks downright saintly by comparison especially when the reviled buffoon starts threatening people.


Yep. I can't imagine you being quite so smug when Canada gets gobsmacked by a trade war and then the subsequent election sees a whole new nationalist party come into power as a result.

That's what I mean.


Considering the level of economic integration between our countries, Trump wouldn’t survive that trade war politically considering he’s the aggressor who started it. Whatever ‘nationalist” movement that could hypothetically emerge in Canada would undoubtedly be anti-Trump.

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Seriously, who the fuck imagined Europe lurching to the right three years ago?
. Vladimir Putin.

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Nigel Farage was John the Baptist crying out and being dismissed as a loon and now a fair chunk of the UK electorate is to his right. Ditto with Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Slovenia, Greece, Romania, Austria, Germany (AfD), and now Italy.


All moved to the right and in several cases the ruling party didn't even exist in the last election.

The same can happen in Canada.

. All noted Russofiles with various ties and meddling tracing to Russia. You grossly overstate support for Farage and Brexit and most Brits are not far-right.

Putin overlooked Canada in his initial moves against the west, probably considering us not a top priority but now that he’s been exposed the jig is up and he’s missed the chance.

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Meaning that as your country reacts to Trump and the new US trade policy it will necessarily move to the right and become protectionist, nationalist, and the result will be a resurgence of the very kind of Canadian identity that your douchebag PM once said had gone extinct.


No that doesn’t follow at all. Canada will just be anti-MAGA, anti-US aggression and anti-Putin and keep looking for honest trade partners rather than dishonest aggressors like Trump.


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BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Canada will just be anti-MAGA, anti-US aggression and anti-Putin and keep looking for honest trade partners rather than dishonest aggressors like Trump.


Who will you trade with when the last Eurosocialist government goes right-wing and, like Italy, tells you to shove your trade agreement up your ass?

I suspect that within ten years the last bastion of European style socialism won't be in Europe but in New Zealand.

And I also think that so-called 'free trade' agreements that are not at all about free trade will die on the vine as nationalism and protectionism come back into vogue.


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None of the major European states have gone right-wing, and probably aren't going to either. Labour is probably going to win in Britain, the centrists are in solid control in Germany, and the far-right got soundly thrashed by Macron in France. A couple of less-than-impressive backwaters in Hungary & Poland, who both went right far more to satisfy the endless Jew-hatred that exists there than to push an anti-EU/pro-capitalist agenda, doesn't count in the slightest as "the right's on a roll, baby!". Means as little in the long run as Mississippi being full MAGA when the states that matter, like California or New York, don't want anything to do with that kind of tripe.


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:
Canada will just be anti-MAGA, anti-US aggression and anti-Putin and keep looking for honest trade partners rather than dishonest aggressors like Trump.


Who will you trade with when the last Eurosocialist government goes right-wing and, like Italy, tells you to shove your trade agreement up your ass?

I suspect that within ten years the last bastion of European style socialism won't be in Europe but in New Zealand.

And I also think that so-called 'free trade' agreements that are not at all about free trade will die on the vine as nationalism and protectionism come back into vogue.


I think your dream of right-wing Europe is far-fetched. Putin’s influence is limited to the former Soviet Bloc countries and 1 or 2 of the poorer, more corrupt western countries, e.g. Italy. Most of Western Europe is safe from the Russian scourge.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:52 pm
 


Well missed the big chance when the world's 2 biggest pariahs were both in one spot...


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Yep. I can't imagine you being quite so smug when Canada gets gobsmacked by a trade war


He won't care.
The last thing he cares about is the people of Canada.
Lieberals are pretty good at that.


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Thanos Thanos:
None of the major European states have gone right-wing, and probably aren't going to either.


This is at least true.
The MSM always labels them as far right, but in reality these parties are still pretty centrist.
The real right wingers are sitting at 2-3% in the polls, so you will never hear about them.
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Labour is probably going to win in Britain,


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No.
7 point spread, even with all the mess in the UK right now.
Labour is absolutely destroying itself over Brexit, next election not til 2022 anyway.

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the centrists are in solid control in Germany,


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No, they are barely hanging on, and AfD gets more popular everyday.



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and the far-right got soundly thrashed by Macron in France.


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No.
It's that binary choice issue you still just don't understand.



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A couple of less-than-impressive backwaters in Hungary & Poland, who both went right far more to satisfy the endless Jew-hatred that exists there than to push an anti-EU/pro-capitalist agenda, doesn't count in the slightest as "the right's on a roll, baby!". Means as little in the long run as Mississippi being full MAGA when the states that matter, like California or New York, don't want anything to do with that kind of tripe.


Wut ?

Anyway, the anti Eu parties are on a roll in Europe; Austria, Italy, Slovenia, Czech,
and yes Hungary.

There was yesterday statements from Italy, Austria, and the Interior Minister of Germany,
who has completely disowned Merkel, about forming some kind of 'Axis against migration'.

Italy, Austria, and Germany.

I'm sure it'll be fine. :lol:



One thing is for sure, despite having access to the proper information for years,
you know absolutely jack shit about European politics.

Next election to watch is Sweden.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:48 pm
 


martin14 martin14:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Yep. I can't imagine you being quite so smug when Canada gets gobsmacked by a trade war


He won't care.
The last thing he cares about is the people of Canada.
Lieberals are pretty good at that.


His first priority is Canada. So is mine.

Should be yours too.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:18 pm
 


Coach85 Coach85:
His first priority is Canada. So is mine.

Should be yours too.



It is.

I simply do not agree with the actions of this government.
Dumb. Just dumb.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:25 pm
 


More like you're completely committed to having your tongue buried up MAGA's ass right to the bitter-tasting end.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:30 pm
 


Thanos Thanos:
More like you're completely committed to having your tongue buried up MAGA's ass right to the bitter-tasting end.


You really should stop talking about yourself and Obama.

Oh right, not your tongue, but your whole damn head. :lol:


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