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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 5:06 pm
 


Lemmy Lemmy:
Your real beef is with the rate of taxation, not the HST. You're taking up the wrong fight.


It't got nothing to do with the rate of taxation and everything to do with: imposing a 07% tax on items that were once PST exempt, lying to the voting public about the Provincial budget and HST, and then completing the grand slam by imposing the HST with no consultation.

Once the Premier and the pet rocks he calls his cabinet address these issues, resolve them to the satisfaction of the people of British Columbia, I'll have no issue with the HST.

Until then you can continue to champion the HST and delude yourself that the only reason anyone is pissed off about this is because it's gonna take more tax money out of our pockets.


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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 5:18 pm
 


Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Lemmy Lemmy:
Your real beef is with the rate of taxation, not the HST. You're taking up the wrong fight.


It't got nothing to do with the rate of taxation and everything to do with: imposing a 07% tax on items that were once PST exempt, lying to the voting public about the Provincial budget and HST, and then completing the grand slam by imposing the HST with no consultation.

Once the Premier and the pet rocks he calls his cabinet address these issues, resolve them to the satisfaction of the people of British Columbia, I'll have no issue with the HST.

Until then you can continue to champion the HST and delude yourself that the only reason anyone is pissed off about this is because it's gonna take more tax money out of our pockets.


If you weren't already over taxed, you wouldn't be pissed about this one. I'm also on your side when it comes to lying, sleazy politicians. But you're the one deluding yourself if you won't admit that, ultimately, your beef is with taxes, not this one particular tax. If the HST had been introduced in revenue-neutral manner, you wouldn't give a shit about it.


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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 5:24 pm
 


Lemmy Lemmy:
If the HST had been introduced in revenue-neutral manner, you wouldn't give a shit about it.

I think that goes without saying. We know taxes pay for things we want. It's the new things we'll be paying 7% on that we're pissed about. Oh and the lying that Gordo did about not bringing in the HST just before an election.


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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 5:33 pm
 


RUEZ RUEZ:
Lemmy Lemmy:
If the HST had been introduced in revenue-neutral manner, you wouldn't give a shit about it.

I think that goes without saying. We know taxes pay for things we want. It's the new things we'll be paying 7% on that we're pissed about. Oh and the lying that Gordo did about not bringing in the HST just before an election.


I understand that. That's the same thing we're experiencing in Ontario as the HST looms here. But a low-rate tax on everything is preferred to a higher rate tax with items exempted. What BC and Ontario SHOULD have done was to harmonize the tax but reduce the rate by, say, 1%. That would make for a better system of taxation with the benefits of the HST but with a gesture to the public to show it wasn't done as a tax-grab. You can say you're pissed about the lie, not the tax, but that's what politicians do: lie. If they lied to you and reduced your taxes would you still be pissed? I doubt it.


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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 10:50 pm
 


Lemmy Lemmy:
If you weren't already over taxed, you wouldn't be pissed about this one. I'm also on your side when it comes to lying, sleazy politicians. But you're the one deluding yourself if you won't admit that, ultimately, your beef is with taxes, not this one particular tax. If the HST had been introduced in revenue-neutral manner, you wouldn't give a shit about it.


Wrong. I seriously doubt I'd be happy about any tax that magically reappeared and was implemented right after being buried. Sort of a night of the living dead tax.

Any new tax is one tax to fucking many and just because Ontario doesn't have the mechanism to fight the HST doesn't mean the people of BC should sit back and take it up the wazoo.

But just to be clear, your suggestion of a tax cut combined with the HST wouldn't have made this tax any more palatable to a majority of the province. This fight has gone far beyond the HST, it's about ethics and morals, neither of which our current provincial government has.

As for a revenue neutral HorseShitTax, well, I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn if anyone is interested. It's a spin that Goverments tell the voting public to get them to fall in line. Being the political football that this tax is, even if the tax was revenue neutral, no government would consider it.

By their own admission the BC Liberals have stated that the HST will bring in approxiately $400 Million dollars annualy in new tax revenue. :evil:

Revenue neutral my ass.


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