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hwacker
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:27 pm
Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck: Yes, Derby, what do you do? I thought you have connections to Research In Motion? Research In BS maybe
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Wally_Sconce 
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Wally_Sconce 
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:12 pm
Derby talks about freedom of choice, but he doesn't want to talk about the reality of this freedom. 43 abortions per 100 live births....that's disturbing!
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hwacker
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:16 pm
Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck: Derby talks about freedom of choice, but he doesn't want to talk about the reality of this freedom. 43 abortions per 100 live births....that's disturbing! I think he knows if all the aborted kids since 1972 were alive today he's be on welfare, he's just stacking the deck for his career. Oh BTW that's about 5M kids.
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Wally_Sconce 
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:22 pm
Derby is just a 1 horse show. Why don't you show some balls and discuss this issue properly?
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Wally_Sconce 
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:28 pm
hwacker hwacker: Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck: Derby talks about freedom of choice, but he doesn't want to talk about the reality of this freedom. 43 abortions per 100 live births....that's disturbing! I think he knows if all the aborted kids since 1972 were alive today he's be on welfare, he's just stacking the deck for his career. Oh BTW that's about 5M kids. there are many careers built on the blood of others. it's sad but true. I'm glad that my profession( biomed tech for a medical device manufacturer) is based on indirectly helping people live longer, not die or kill others
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Brenda
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:30 pm
I think Derby defended the right (or freedom) to choose perfectly. However, this topic has not so much to do with the original article anymore.
I don't know the guy, I know nothing about the medal, so it is not up to me to have an opinion about it.
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Posts: 1211
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:42 pm
CanAm1 CanAm1: It is a sad day indeed when a serial killer gets the OC. What the tar are they thinking?  Who is on this committee? Unlike teflon jean, Harper needs to take responsibility for what goes on in committees. He needs to boot all these people off of it!!! Morgantaller is a mass murderer way to go idiots. Boy how my country disgusts me at times like this and makes me ashamed to be Canadian. Even ifyou agreewith abortion this is not appropriate to give a cheese dick this award. Soldiers who fought and died and famous people who contributed something great to Canada have accepted this award and this now cheapens everyone who actually deserved it. Shame Canada Shame! HAPPY CANADA DAY!!!  Well put, could not agree with you more 
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Wally_Sconce 
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:49 pm
Actually, he didn't defend it, he argued the philosophy behind it.
But, in the medical world, the science or rationale behind something is often not enough. You need to perform clinic trials, and study real world data.
In this case, 43 aborted children per 100 live births is the real data. And, it is obvious to me that the cure is worse than the disease, so to speak.
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ridenrain
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:58 pm
RUEZ RUEZ: DerbyX DerbyX: RUEZ RUEZ: Welfare bum. Either a very honest or very deceitful answer. Either that or you aren't that proud of your vocation. I'm on the EI ski team(formerly UI ski team which I think still sounds better). My job burned down homeslice. I am without vocation. But I'm leaning towards lab tech. How many months in school is that? SNAP! That was some funny shit! What an apauling little read that whole thing was. Derby: For christs sakes, you do come off a a snotty git, waving around you're "calling to save mankind" and all. The forays into personal attacks are really belittling and don't sound like an educated opinion, but that of a little man, full of his own importance. I think the question of the rights of abortion are aside of this topic. If the qualifications are people who were persecuted for standing up for what they believed was right then we better put Robert Latimer on the list too. This selection was made with the purpose of dividing Canadians, and that's why it stinks of a Liberal smear.
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Wally_Sconce 
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:37 pm
Morgentaller didn't stand up for what he beleived in. He got paid.
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:08 pm
Did he do a great thing? Sure. Should he get the order of Canada... not so sure.
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ridenrain
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:10 pm
In fact, if we're looking for contraversy and opinion, lets nomnate paul Martin's doctor: Dr. Sheldon Elman. Dr. Sheldon Elman is the founder and CEO of the Medisys Health Group. He has been Martin's doctor for 23 years. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2004/05/ ... 40507.htmlIn fact, if we go to Medsys's web site we see: $1: Medisys Announces $11 Million Combined Treasury and Secondary Offering NOT FOR DISTRIBUTION TO UNITED STATES NEWSWIRE SERVICES OR FOR DISSEMINATION IN THE UNITED STATES
Montreal, Quebec, May 17, 2005 - Medisys Health Group Income Fund (TSX: MHG.UN) (the "Fund"), one of Canada's leading national providers of healthcare services to corporations and insurance companies, is pleased to announce that it and Dr. Sheldon Elman have entered into an agreement with Clarus Securities Inc. for the private placement of 865,000 Fund Units in a combined treasury and secondary offering. ... Medisys Health Group Income Fund is an unincorporated, open-ended, limited purpose trust established to invest in Medisys Health Group and its subsidiaries. http://www.medisys.ca/press/0050.htmDosen't sound like something Tommy Douglass would behappy about but the even Canadian values change.
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:59 am
hwacker hwacker: Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck: Derby talks about freedom of choice, but he doesn't want to talk about the reality of this freedom. 43 abortions per 100 live births....that's disturbing! I think he knows if all the aborted kids since 1972 were alive today he's be on welfare, he's just stacking the deck for his career. Oh BTW that's about 5M kids. OMG! That is mass genocide. I have seen a video of an abortion (partial birth) the baby was kicking, it's mouth opened as the tongs clamped onto his head (probably just reflex but we will never know) and the skull was crushed. They quickly threw the remains into a medical waste bin. And walked off leaving the woman crying hysterically. It was done pretty matter of factly and without remorse on the doctors part. So I can believe that people in the industry have desencitized (sp) themselves to this atrocity.
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hwacker
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:08 am
CanAm1 CanAm1: hwacker hwacker: Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck: Derby talks about freedom of choice, but he doesn't want to talk about the reality of this freedom. 43 abortions per 100 live births....that's disturbing! I think he knows if all the aborted kids since 1972 were alive today he's be on welfare, he's just stacking the deck for his career. Oh BTW that's about 5M kids. OMG! That is mass genocide. I have seen a video of an abortion (partial birth) the baby was kicking, it's mouth opened as the tongs clamped onto his head and the skull was crushed. They quickly threw the remains into a medical waste bin. And walked off leaving the woman crying hysterically. It was done pretty matter of factly and without remorse on the doctors part. So I can believe that people in the industry have desencitized (sp) themselves to this atrocity. Just think in the states it's about 1.35 million a year. That's like taking Montreal and flushing it down the toilet every year. IMO that's cultural genocide. And some people think this is a great thing.
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